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WOW, I have so much news regarding this nonsense UK Visa, what a scam, I am so mad, well let me begin by telling you we are leaving sunday 26April-12 June on quite a long European trip, so as I am not yet a US citizen , I still need Visas, we started by getting the schengen first for Germany which I got in Miami for the exact amount of days, in Half an hour, they were very good, as they also knew I had to send away for this Uk Visa to Chicago .

Firstly we had to pay Worldbridge just to speak to them about the Visa application process , then we had to fill out the most ridiculous application visa form I have ever had to do, you can quite clearly see this is something very new to them, at everyone's expense, at the very beginning you have 3 questions to answer defining whether or not you require a UK Visa., and guess what it pops up in bold red , YES YOU DO REQUIRE A VISA, so we filled in the application and was told it only takes a few days, but please just remember there in Nowhere you can contact anyone or even speak to a person, only a fax, so off we send the package with my sons and my passport, and do the waiting game, so Monday i start getting paranoid that I have heard nothing, so begin the search, as we are leaving Sunday , so I search and search and start finding more and more info about their scam and lies that I have sworn to bring to all South afrias attention, because you will never be told , you will just pay and they will never tell you the truth that ALL SOUTH AFRICANS WITH A GREEN CARD DONOT NEED A UK VISA, , please read below to see the different dates as to when this is all meant to be in affect from:

 

1 April 2009: New visa rules for passport holders from Lesotho, South Africa and Swaziland. From 1 July 2009 passport holders from these countries will need a visa to enter the UK. For more information please visit the UK Border Agency Visa Services website.

IMPORTANT CHANGES FOR SOUTH AFRICAN VISITORS TO THE UK

 

The British government has announced changes to the visa requirements for South African nationals who wish to visit or transit the United Kingdom.

 

 

From 3 March 2009, South African nationals will require a visa to enter or transit the UK no matter what the purpose or length of your stay. Any South African passport holder who already has a valid visa or permission to reside in the UK will not be affected.

 

To qualify for a temporary exemption you must have traveled to the UK and have evidence of your visit in your current passport (i.e. a UK entry stamp). Evidence of a UK entry stamp in your current passport means you will not need a visa if you want to:-

 

* transit

* visit for less than six months

* do not want to work in the UK

 

The visa you choose depends on your reason for visiting the UK and how long you plan to stay. Use the links on the left to find out more information on how to apply for a UK visa.

 

Please also see the guide to new visa regulations for South African Nationals. All of the Visa Applications Forms (VAFs) and General Guidance on visas can be found on the UK Border Agency Visa Services website.

 

these are the 3 questions we are asked:

 

YES

You will normally need a visa to pass through the United Kingdom in transit.

You told us:

You are

A national of South Africa

Purpose of your visit

Transit

Your status

Normally and legally living in United States

Next steps:

Please read

Our Transit (INF 20) guidance offers more information including advice on what you need to do to transit to the Republic of Ireland

How to apply

Most visa applications can be made online but staff at the visa application centre will guide you through the application process available in your country.

 

You may find it useful to

 

If you are in the United States you must apply online.

 

Biometric fingerscans are collected at one of 129 Application Support Centres throughout the United States. You will be able to book an appointment to have your fingerscan once you have completed your online application.

 

The temporary visa exemption for South African visitors with a previous travel history to the United Kingdom which began on 3 March will cease at midnight on 30 June 2009. From Wednesday 1 July 2009 all South African visitors will require a visa, as will visitors from Lesotho and Swaziland.

Just another date................................so far 3 different ones

 

Am I exempt from the DATV requirement?

You will be exempt from the DATV requirement and may be able to transit without visa if you hold one of the following.

 

* A valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel through the UK as part of a journey from another country or territory to the country for which you have the entry visa.

* A valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel through the UK as part of a journey from the country for which you have the visa to another country or territory.

* A valid airline ticket for travel through the UK as part of a journey from Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America to another country or territory, as long as you do not transit (pass through) the UK on a date more than six months after the date on which you last entered Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America with a valid visa for that country.

* A valid USA I-551 permanent resident card issued on or after 21 April 1998.

* A valid Canadian permanent resident card issued on or after 28 June 2002.

* A valid common format category D visa for entry to an EEA state – see our 'EEA and Swiss nationals' leaflet for a list of EEA states.

* A valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA state under Council Regulation (EC) number 1030/2002.

* A diplomatic or service passport issued by the People’s Republic of China.

* A diplomatic or official passport issued by India.

* A diplomatic or official passport issued by Vietnam.

Sorry this is so much , but I just did not want anyone else to go through this nonsense of theirs, and eventually I received an e-mail yesterday saying they apologize for the delay , due to an error in their Biometrics enrolment at their UK office, and since we have demanded them return our passports as we would reroute our trip through they will refund our fees, they aslo added that in fact we donot require Visas as SA passport holders as we hold US green cards, and that we can demonstrate previous UK travels and are therefore permitted to travel in the UK, and the new immigration rule regarding SA passport holders referenced by our partners worldbridge will only come into effect after July 2, 2009.

Yet they were prepared to rip us off if we didnt find these hidden passages.

So look through this carefully, as this is from the BRITISH CONSULATE GENERAL VISA OFFICE IN CHICAGO

GOOD LUCK

 

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Thank you very much Sherryl :ilikeit:

 

This information will save all the frustration and anxiety :censored: you had to endure

 

Super news :ilikeit:

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Thanks for the info. I will spread the word too as I know of some people that are travelling home via London and will not need to get visas.

 

 

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Thank you so much for sharing this here! I am sorry that you had such an ordeal though.

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Does someone flying from Johannesburg to the USA need a visa for the UK if the flight connects in London?

This will be their first visit to the USA. (Never been to the UK either)

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Does someone flying from Johannesburg to the USA need a visa for the UK if the flight connects in London?

This will be their first visit to the USA. (Never been to the UK either)

 

No. As long as they have a ticket to the USA and a valid USA visa before they board in Johannesburg. They also cannot try and leave the airport in London.

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So, what does this mean?

 

Important!

From 3 March 2009, if you hold a South African passport you will require a visa to enter or transit the UK no matter what the purpose or length of your stay.

 

If you only wish to transit through the UK without visiting, or leaving the airport, you will need to apply for a Direct Airside Transit Visa (DATV).

 

Quotes from here: UK Visa and UK Transit Visa

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So, what does this mean?

 

 

 

 

 

Quotes from here: UK Visa and UK Transit Visa

 

Yep, this is very confusing. There is an exemption which reads as follows:

 

 

This is found here.

 

 

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I just wanted to post an update of my experience obtaining a UK visitor's visa. It arrived today, back in my hand. I sent my passport to the British Embassy in Chicago last Monday & they received it on Tuesday (6/2).

I went through this website: http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/

The visa with the cost of return shipping was $113.00 plus $8.00 for passport pictures plus $25.00 to UPS to send passport to Chicago.

I had to make an appointment for biometrics - oddly enough it was at the same place in Atalanta where I had biometrics taken for my I-751 (been almost 2 months since any movement on that). After that I sent in my application, passport & stamped biometrics appointment notice to BR. Emb. in Chicago. Accompanying my application I submitted 6 months worth of bank statements, a letter from my employer stating that I would be returning, a letter of invite from my sis & BIL plus their legal paperwork allowing them to live & work in the UK. This last bit is required!

 

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Thank you for the info, we are planning a England trip next year to visit some family and friends and I am not really looking forward to all this. (The visa application, the visit I am looking forward to. :rolleyes: ) We are in Nashville which means we have to travel to Atlanta for our Biometrics. (That is if I understand everything correctly) Luckily Atlanta is only a couple of hours from us and we get to visit some friends. :)

 

 

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You're welcome. I got back 2 days ago & had a great time with surprisingly hot weather!

 

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While the above is all correct I did want to alert you to the following notes to the exemption:

 

If you hold a valid travel document with a US ‘ADIT’ stamp saying – 'Processed for I-551. TEMPORARY EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL ADMISSION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE VALID UNTIL [date]. EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZED', you are not exempt and need a DATV

 

This means if you are one of those who has come to the USA and everything has started being processed for the green card and then left again (maybe gone back to SA for some packing up etc) and you have not got your actual green card as yet YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION.

 

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf20transit

 

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But I'm not sure one would be eligible even if they held a 10 year green card because the person would still have a SA passport which is where the issue lies. Or am I wrong?

Look, getting the UK visitors' visa was not a big deal except for the $113.00 charged for it. I suggest being on the safe side & just applying for it. http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/ was pretty straightforward.

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But I'm not sure one would be eligible even if they held a 10 year green card because the person would still have a SA passport which is where the issue lies. Or am I wrong?

Look, getting the UK visitors' visa was not a big deal except for the $113.00 charged for it. I suggest being on the safe side & just applying for it. http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/ was pretty straightforward.

 

For transit: (to USA/from USA)

 

1 x Immigration packet for USA is acceptable - no transit visa required

1 x green card is acceptable - no transit visa required

1 x temporary greencard (the one we get in the passport) is not acceptable - transit visa required

 

 

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