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10 hours ago, Sthe77 said:

Im with the Family dear we are 5 ,,we have a whtasp group as DV 2018 if ud be interested to join us ,let me know

Yes I'm interested dear. 

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On 12 April 2018 at 6:52 PM, DeeVee87 said:

Yes I'm interested dear. 

u can inbox me your Number

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Agree

i also think the days of issuing over 50k visas are over, many of the years they did (the official legal limit is 55k).

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On 4/18/2018 at 3:37 AM, SJ272 said:

Agree

i also think the days of issuing over 50k visas are over, many of the years they did (the official legal limit is 55k).

I wonder if the Trump Admin realises that'll be the direct cause of exactly what they don't want, illegal immigration will spike, desperate people will do crazy things.

I have seen that Australia and New Zealand are also starting to decrease their visa allocations and 

make their entrance criteria stricter. It's just making life so much harder for people looking to improve their lives legally.

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Since 1999, only 50 000 visas have been available for DV entrants.  In some years, the actual issue has fallen quite a bit short of that, and in a few years just over.  It will be interesting to see the DV2018 number in due course.  
                    Total Issued    South Africans (Includes Main DV selectee and their family members)
DV2017     49 976                215  
DV2016    46 718                 182
DV2015    49 377                 197
DV2014    51 018                 211
DV2013    51 080                 319
DV2012    34 463                 225
DV2011    51 118                 309
DV2010    51 312                 303
DV2009    48 036                 301
DV2008    46 633                 235
DV2007    40 076                 151

 

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Although the number set aside has been 50k that has been because 5k annually had been allotted for NACARA. Those have not been close to being fully used in recent years, since the late 2000s,, hence why you see a number of years from that time when DV issuance has actually gone over 50k - the hard limit in law is 55k, not 50k, and they were obviously using some of the underutilized NACARA allocation.  (DV2012  was so low because of the second draw debacle so that wasn’t a normal year.) And it seems like in 2016 they simply underestimated the number of selectees who would proceed with their cases, which is why mist regions went current so early. However it certainly appears that a return to 50k has been the case more recently, which I’d be 99.999% sure is part of the new administration clamping down wherever it can without a court challenge. If 50k was a legal limit there would not have been any years at all in which it went over that.

 

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Please confirm if the results for the 2019 DV lottery will still be released next month ? Or has it been cancelled ? I`m really hoping the 2019 lottery will still be honoured! Remaining hopeful once again ...

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4 hours ago, OP1985 said:

Please confirm if the results for the 2019 DV lottery will still be released next month ? Or has it been cancelled ? I`m really hoping the 2019 lottery will still be honoured! Remaining hopeful once again ...

As far is I know, neither house in Congress has passed any new legislation on the DV lottery and POTUS has not signed any new immigration laws or signed any executive orders affecting the lottery. Trump would be tweeting the high heavens if he/they had. Especially if it meant the end of the DV lottery. So that means the next draw should go ahead in May as planned under Federal guidelines and law.

We are also coming up on six months from the next mid-term elections, and I’m not entirely sure anyone in Congress (on either side of the aisle) is willing to risk or has the political will to tackle drastic immigration reform this close to such a hotly contested and important election. Immigration is a highly devise, hot-button issue, which politicians here prefer to talk about and campaign on before and during elections in favor of actually acting on and risking their respective seats. Cynical, I know, but history has yet to prove otherwise... thus far.

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On ‎2018‎/‎04‎/‎19 at 5:00 PM, Malamute said:

Since 1999, only 50 000 visas have been available for DV entrants.  In some years, the actual issue has fallen quite a bit short of that, and in a few years just over.  It will be interesting to see the DV2018 number in due course.  
                    Total Issued    South Africans (Includes Main DV selectee and their family members)
DV2017     49 976                215  
DV2016    46 718                 182
DV2015    49 377                 197
DV2014    51 018                 211
DV2013    51 080                 319
DV2012    34 463                 225
DV2011    51 118                 309
DV2010    51 312                 303
DV2009    48 036                 301
DV2008    46 633                 235
DV2007    40 076                 151

 

[at]Malamute - do you how many South African applications were made for each year?

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1 hour ago, Shamus said:

[at]Malamute - do you how many South African applications were made for each year?

Numbers are here https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry/diversity-visa-program-statistics.html but not up to date, latest 3 years are 2013-2015, around 48k, 56k and 52k including derivatives in those years.  In those years total selectees for SA were 956, 1038 and 924. So a lot more selected than get visas, my impression from this forum is not that it’s due to high refusals but that a lot of people just don’t pursue the application.  I guess costs for the average South African are pretty high (not just for the visa process but the actual move), especially when it’s a whole family you need to move over.

 

 

 

 

 

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[at]Shamus - Yes, there was data published up to and including DV2015 of how many entrants there were per country.  Also, each year they do also announce how many were selected per country.  I've added that info below:

DV 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Wordwide entries 5,565,562 6,455,167 9,147,340 9,534,011 12,001,578 14,768,659 7,941,400 9,374,191 9,388,986 11,391,134 12,437,190 14,692,258
Derivatives (spouse, children) on entries 3,504,665 3,609,149 4,037,673 4,063,817 4,509,930 4,903,609 4,636,063 5,259,576 5,008,795 6,182,216 6,907,396 8,396,355
TOTAL Worldwide Entries 9,070,227 10,064,316 13,185,013 13,597,828 16,511,508 19,672,268 12,577,463 14,633,767 14,397,781 17,573,350 19,344,586 23,088,613
Winners Notified 82,000 102,800 99,600 102,800 100,600 100,021 105,628 140,660 125,514 91,563 83,910 115,968
Visas Issued TOTAL 40,076 46,633 48,036 51,312 51,118 34,463 51,080 51,018 49,377 46,718 49,976 Started 01 Oct 2017
South African entries 11,729 14,646 18,086 18,013 22,249 21,523 21,269 24,679 23,589 ? ? ?
South African Derivatives (spouse, children) on entries 11,433 15,568 20,073 22,195 27,895 27,047 26,403 31,677 28,579 ? ? ?
TOTAL South African Entries 23,162 30,214 38,159 40,208 50,144 48,570 47,672 56,356 52,168 ? ?  
South Africans Drawn (from winners, not Total) 287 713 909 863 963 833 956 1,038 924 535 427 500
Visas issued from Total, not winners 151 235 301 303 309 225 319 211 197 182 215  

 

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5 minutes ago, SJ272 said:

Numbers are here https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry/diversity-visa-program-statistics.html but not up to date, latest 3 years are 2013-2015, around 48k, 56k and 52k including derivatives in those years.  In those years total selectees for SA were 956, 1038 and 924. So a lot more selected than get visas, my impression from this forum is not that it’s due to high refusals but that a lot of people just don’t pursue the application.  I guess costs for the average South African are pretty high (not just for the visa process but the actual move), especially when it’s a whole family you need to move over.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree,the whole process is not cheap and you will not know until you have applied,before applying a person does not think or know half of the cost involved.At the end of the day it is a risk that I think its worth putting everything you have on line for.You are correct sj

 

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