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[at]Kallas, they don’t list financial documents because everyone is so different - what they need from a 24-year-old IT graduate will be very different to what they need from a 65-year old retiree, for example. You will need to show you won’t be a public charge in the US ie you can support yourself. As Heidi says a I134 is one option, they almost never used to ask about this in SA but seems they do more now (I am guessing part of the reason is that the rand has fallen so much that converting SA assets is much less favorable than it used to be). But any sensible approach will work - an i134 or job offer would be solid, or bring proof of your assets in SA that you will be able to liquidate and take (House, shares etc). If you have a degree and/or work experience in a field that should be easy to get work in, that will help of course even if you don’t have a job offer yet (most people don’t get one before they move).

In addition to what Oscar says about income, if you have significant assets to liquidate- I would suggest try do that before you become a green card holder. If you do it afterwards, you may also be liable for capital gains tax in the US (probably not on your house as the effective primary residence exemption is much higher in the US, but possibly on financial assets. However if you start renting out your house after you are gone, you will afaik lose the primary residence CGT exemption both in SA and US so be aware of the tax implications of that. It may be worth getting a quick tax consultation on these issues before you leave.)

Note that unless your SA income is particularly high, the double tax agreement (if you have paid tax in SA) and foreign income exemption (I think it’s around $100k a year, maybe a little higher now) should usually mean you don’t have to actually pay tax on it in the US even though you have to declare it to the IRS. 

Be sure to investigate all the nuances of the current situation about whether or not you need to financially emigrate, given that for now you plan to keep assets/have income in SA.

good luck!

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I got my passport with visa in it 😁, it is a reality now. I also see the next visa bulletin is out, all regions are current with no exceptions. But that is irrelevant as we were all current two months ago. 

Kallas and Franette, have you guys looked at flights? I found a $900 = R13.5k return flight to JFK on Qatar airways. Returns are much cheaper per flight than one way. Thinking of making the return flight flexible option (like $100 more) so i can shift the date later on. 

No biltong 😬

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4 hours ago, Heidi556 said:

 

No biltong 😬

You can get biltong, wors and even boerewors  from   https://www.ayoba-yo.com/

Their biltong is available  in some whole foods stores and also on Amazon

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[at]oscar, did you move?

 

[at]Heidi556, you’d be amazed what you can get here. The only things I never seem to be able to find are jelly tots, though you may have to look at a variety of stores to find what you need (world market, various online stores, special local delis - the British shop in Santa Monica has a whole SA section, we have someone local who makes wors and melktert and yes real biltong, another one who sells bunny chow, etc. )

let us know when you’ve booked your ticket! So exciting!

 

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I got a nice  promotion at work so we had to move to be in the Head Office in NYC. This also works out well with the kids going to College in the fall.  We have a nice condo on the 15th floor .With pool and garden on 30th floor. Been here for three weeks, and  becoming a real city slicker commuting on the bus and metro. The car is in the basement gathering dust.        

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20 minutes ago, oscar said:

I got a nice  promotion at work so we had to move to be in the Head Office in NYC. This also works out well with the kids going to College in the fall.  We have a nice condo on the 15th floor .With pool and garden on 30th floor. Been here for three weeks, and  becoming a real city slicker commuting on the bus and metro. The car is in the basement gathering dust.        

Congrats on the promotion and welcome to the North East

NY has so much to offer, such an energy and melting pot. We are 50 min out from GC on the Metro North. Most people in our town commute daily to the city for work. Best of both worlds

 

 

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Sounds great, Oscar! We will probably retire to NYC (I understand this is opposite to what many do!) My older kid starts college there in the fall and we have family there, and spend a lot of time there anyway and now we will spend more, haha.  Other than midsummer humidity, I love it.

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Congratulations, Oscar - and enjoy the change.  I'm so glad I've moved around a bit in the States - I know of quite a few South Africans who moved to the States - and to a random city/state because that is where they got their first job etc, and just stayed there.  

Atlanta, the San Francisco Bay Area, and now Colorado have all been very different, and it is quite liberating to reinvent your life in a new place - it is for me, anyhow.  

New York is a great springboard to get anywhere in the world - including hopping on the direct flight to SA - especially now that United will be starting direct to Cape Town too.  
 

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Thanks, Adventurer, SJ272 and Malamute, We went up to Mystic CT for a overnight getaway. Mystic is an interesting town on the coast, lots of little shops and restaurants. Its where the movie Mystic Pizza was filmed. The traffic was heavy all the way.

New York has a lot to see and do. We enjoyed  hiring a boat in Central Park and rowing around in the lake.

Management took us to Daniels Restaurant this was a really expensive place Dinner ran over $300.00 a person.

Here is a link if you have a chunk of change to spare.

https://www.danielnyc.com/about

Interestingly we found out that most pharmacies do home deliveries in Manhattan unlike other states.

 

 

 

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Randomly, cvs does home delivery here now, both prescriptions and general stuff from the store. I don’t know if it’s a state by state thing..

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On 6/14/2019 at 8:29 AM, Heidi556 said:

Kallas and Franette, have you guys looked at flights? I found a $900 = R13.5k return flight to JFK on Qatar airways. Returns are much cheaper per flight than one way. Thinking of making the return flight flexible option (like $100 more) so i can shift the date later on. 

Ah Heidi - congratulations! Now you're all set!!

I receive notifications from skyscanner every day/every time flight prices change. I have set it up for single, as well as return, and yes return seems to be better priced. Emirates had a R8/9k single fare, but SAA charges R17k for a single trip 😵 and R13.5 or so for return (but then it is a direct flight to JFK with SAA). 

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I've just received a letter from the JHB consulate with a list of what documents are required for the interview. The only concern I have is that they clearly stipulate a non-abridged birth certificate (with both parent's names on) - I've got this for my wife and kids, but mine is still the old original birth certificate which doesn't have my parent's names on. The original document request from the KCC only mentioned "birth certificate", hence I thought mine would be fine. They also never mentioned anything when I sent them the scanned copy. I'm worried now, since applying for an unabridged birth certificate would take at least a month, and my interview is in two weeks. Does anyone have any kind of experience regarding abridged/unabridged birth certificates?? 

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I do know that when I had my interview (which was the days before you sent the documents beforehand) - they were very specific about it being unabridged, and the machine printed one.  I had, some years earlier, obtained an unabridged certificate, but it was filled in by hand by Home Affairs - and I had to get another - and now, of course, they are all machine printed.  But yes, my understanding is that it must be the unabridged version.  

I would suggest applying for that asap - but keep your interview appointment, and take what you have.  They could put you in administrative processing - i.e. approve everything, but not approve/issue the visa until that outstanding document is supplied.  As your visa must be issued by 30 September, or you lose it, get the application in immediately. You could find that they are lenient and grant the visa on the basis of what you have, but unlikely....but you may be lucky.

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It definitely has to be unabridged (and machine printed in SA). This is also stipulated in the official website instructions which your selection letter linked to:

Each applicant must submit a birth certificate issued by the official custodian of birth records in the country of birth, showing the date and place of birth and the parentage of the applicant, based upon the original registration of birth. Important Notice: You must submit a long form original birth certificate. Short form birth certificates will not be accepted.

 The certificate must contain the:

  • Person's date of birth;
  • Person's place of birth;
  • Names of both parents; and,
  • Annotation by the appropriate authority indicating that it is an extract from the official records.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry/diversity-visa-if-you-are-selected/diversity-visa-prepare-supporting-documents.html

 

Attend the interview anyway, they will place you on AP pending receipt of the required document. In your case I might use one of those “agencies”, much as I hate them, but you won’t have any time to waste on potential lengthy delays.

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Not sure how I missed that, thx [at]Malamute and [at]SJ272. I also have the hand-written long form, I'll take it with to the interview (even though they definitely won't accept it), together with proof that I've applied for my unabridged certificate. Hopefully they'll put me on AP, and things won't be delayed too long.

They're also asking for the I-134, but as you mentioned [at]Heidi556, I plan on providing my own financial support, hence I'll put together a "net worth" statement for my wife and I. Hope this suffices.

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